Dr. Thomas Kline, MD, PhD: Medical Myths Revealed Corona virus GLOVES CAN KILL GETTING BACK TO WORK THE ZONE SYSTEM

I personally think GLOVES are killing people especially in nursing home from failure to wash gloves like your hands. It is not being done!! Is is easier to spread viruses with gloves than hands. The false sense of security is dangerous to self and others. Basic understanding of how the virus is spread through direct contact is lacking. CDC is not giving enough details spending all its time trying to convince doctors to stop treating pain, instead of making videos on how to control the spread in the work place so we can save our wrecked economy and at the same time stop more spread of the virus. Just my opinion as always. Believe it or not! maybe i should open a museum of just my opinions

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  1. Dr.Kline, opinions are like ##s ####s, everyone has one.
    Some do belong in a museum, but a few of yours are worthy of a shrine.

    You are 100% right on the enhanced spread of germs due to wearer laziness to use a new pair of gloves with each patient / procedure.

    I’ve called providers on it when approached for examination and their feathers are ruffled” for the duration of the now tainted visit.
    They know the error of their ways. We need to have a way of shaming/reminding them into doing the right thing. They are allready well educated on the matter.

    Perhaps one of those 30 million dollar posters put out by CDC ect. would do it. You should apply for the funding grant to produce it.
    50 thousand of us out here are your references on capability.
    Hope to see one posted in the exam room on next visit.

    Thanks for your tireless service to the chronic and rare disease community.

  2. I am often terrified by the fact that medical professionals have such huge gaps in their knowledge base. I’m not a doctor or nurse, but did basic medical research for many years, including sterile tissue culture. It’s a very basic, beginning lesson for anyone doing sterile work that any time their hands –gloved or not– come out of the sterile hood, they must be re-sterilized before going back to work in the hood.

    Medical pros (should!) know they have to wash their hands between each contact. Why in the world would they think that gloves magically destroy any pathogen that gets on them? I’d like to attribute it to them being so overworked they just can’t think right, but lack of hand-washing has been a major source of iatrogenic disease for years. Probably contributes to the fact that medical mistakes have killed more people than all opioids combined for years…but I have yet to hear hysterical screaming about a “medical mistake epidemic.”

    • those of us who work in a sterile hood…have a entirely different mindset of those who operate/function in a sterile operating suite. At one time it was stated that one of the most germ laden things in a hospital was the doc’s TIE

      • I’m sure my sterile hood experiences don’t make me knowledgeable about operating suites, except possibly giving us a good, ‘neurotic’ view about what could be a germ delivery device, & how to wash hands reasonably well.

        A tie?? Hmmm….unless the doc was using it as a kleenex, it seems there could be germier things. Like the hands they shook with everyone without ever washing between…? Or should I just stick with sterile hoods?

  3. Love an respect Dr. Kline. Steve I heard something over the weekend that just shook me to my core..I was hoping you could ask the Dr his thoughts on EVERYONE who dies, on Death certificate it is being listed as covid 19 “cause of death” Maybe I just didnt no this,but I was told because every one who passes cannot have an autopsy . But isnt that “fudging” all the records for future reference? Surely there not all dying from the virus. If records are kept like that,whats the sense of keeping records” This really made me wonder about all the other records kept. Thanks as always for great posts Steve

    • We have 50 different states and 50 different different procedures for coroners to follow, and the qualification of the coroner will also vary from state to state.. I know that here in Indiana.. they are ELECTED… like the general public can determine the qualifications of those running for the job. Autopsies are EXPENSIVE and depending on how backed up the coroner’s office is and how short their budget is. I heard a story of a toddler that was reported of dying from COVID-19 and the parents contacted the media to clarify that the toddler had a accident at home and that was the cause of death. I have heard that there is some EXTRA REIMBURSEMENT for a hospital handling a COVID-19 deaths. At one time I had a part of a coroner’s manual and there was a portion that they only way that they could declare it a suicide only if there was obvious self inflicted wounds as the cause of death. As I understand it.. they are wanting to move against the term suicide and prefer the term “death of despair” If the dead pt has a recent Opiate Rx or opiate shows up in toxicology the death is ruled as “opiate related death” It appears that the cause of death is pretty fungible. At one time Indiana was going to mandate a very expensive testing of the opiate found in toxicology to determine the source/origin of the opiate. My Indiana Senator and I were at Butler U at the same time getting a degree in pharmacy and I sent him a email… and if they determined that the source of the drugs was determined to be CHINA.. what authority does Indiana have to go after a opiate sourced from China.. I don’t think that the bill got voted out of the legislature.

  4. I agree with you Dr Kline gloves are dangerous with spreading Covid/19. Thank you so much for your help with opioids. I am one of the many who depend on these to get out of bed and try to function with daily duties. I feel hopeless and will never have a functioning life again but the opioids help. If I ever lose all rights to these drugs my life as I know it is over. I will be bedridden and I can’t face that. I wish other doctors were more like you. Continue with your fight to get your license back. It seems like no one has any rights anymore. We are being told what we can and can’t do by someone who has no idea what it’s like to live with horrible pain each day. Thank you. Brenda Mitchell

  5. Good “asepsis” and transmission facts. As a surgical instrument tech we become very aware of what we touch and touched and what is and was sources of contamination and PPE disposal technique and proceeded with great confidence. PPE equipment improperly used can then become COLLECTORS of pathogens.

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